It’s June 1930: The ‘Greatest Depression’ Is Just Getting Started
Posted on: Jul 13th, 2009 | By Contrarian Profits | Filed under Top Story
We are now in June 1930, according to trader/author Ron Coby, a friend and neighbor of one of our favorite underground investors Dan Ferris. (Ferris is a member of the Stansberry & Associates Investment Research team and editor of Extreme Value. ) Ron believes stocks are going to plunge – just as they did from June 1930 to July 1932 when the crash that began on October 24 1929 finally bottomed.
This from an email Ron sent Dan on Tuesday after the market closed (hat tip, The S&A Digest ):
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It’s over, man. We are now in June 1930… repeat, just like we repeated 1929 in 2008 and repeated the 40 plus percent rally in Nov 1929 to April 1930… Now the real pain begins… The DJIA collapsed 89% over the following 2 years until July 1932 bottom.
We sincerely hope Ron is wrong. But the similarities between the recent sucker’s rally and the Nov 1929 to April 1930 rally are eerie to say the least.
Corporate bond spreads are still pricing in “a very bad economic and financial market scenario,” says David Rosenberg at Gluskin Sheff.
- While Baa corporate spreads have narrowed sharply from their Armageddon highs (and perhaps vulnerable near-term to a healthy pullback in risk appetite), at 370bps, they are still pricing in a very bad economic and financial market scenario. Moreover, this yield spread is still wider than at any point during the 2001 or 1990 recessions or the 1998 LTCM/Russian debt default freeze-up. In fact, history suggests that the corporate default rate would have to rise well above 7% for corporate bonds to deliver negative returns with yields as high as they are at around 7¼%. In a -1¼% inflation rate world, this is a hefty 8½% real rate for investors to chew on. Not too shabby. The comparable yield in the U.S. equity market, depending on whether one uses reported or operating P/E multiples on forward or trailing earnings, is a little more than 6½%.
That puts the yield gap between corporate bonds and equities at 200bps. Here at Notes we’re extremely shy of equities right now. In our view corporate bonds are much better bet. As Rosie puts it, “In a nutshell, investment-grade corporate bonds offer some degree of cyclicality (though risk is involved) along with the benefit of capturing a decent yield that is tough to come by these days.”
- Credit inched down at an annual rate of 1.5% during the month – a $3.2 billion drop to a total consumer debt load of $2.52 trillion. Coupled with the previous three months, we’re now experiencing the biggest and longest consumer deleveraging since 1991. We even have a somewhat respectable savings rate – 6.9%, the highest since 1993.
While we welcome this deleveraging, it still doesn’t seem legit. With unemployment at a 26-year high and the sudden disappearance of easy-money credit, we wonder if this balance sheet restoration is a matter of choice… or if the lowly American consumer is just playing the hand he’s been dealt.
“To be clear, the household and business sector debt reduction is still in its early stages,” adds The Richebacher Letter editor Rob Parenteau, “and has been dwarfed by the massive deleveraging of the financial sector itself as the so-called ‘shadow banking system’ has either collapsed or moved onto the Fed’s balance sheet.”
In other words the recent drop in consumer credit is just “a drop in the bucket”…
Bill Bonner insists that this is a depression, not a recession. And given that he was one of the few commentators who warned of the recent blowup, we don’t doubt him. On Wednesday, Bill (who edits The Daily Reckoning ) gave a speech to an audience of publishers in London. Here’s what he had to say on the nature of the current downturn:
- It’s a depression. And it will remain a depression until this huge pile of debt accumulated over the last quarter century has been paid down. Until businesses and banks that are no longer viable have gone broke and been restructured. Until consumers have real money to spend – not just more credit. Until those things happen, there is no way for a genuine recovery to take place.
For more than half a century, the driving force of the world economy has been the willingness of English-speaking consumers to go further and further into debt. That permitted businesses to expand sales and profits.
Now, that trend – that lasted longer than the lifetimes of most of the people in this room – is finished. Consumers aren’t going further into debt. Bankers aren’t lending them more money. Their houses aren’t going up in price…so they have nothing to borrow against. It’s over. And now, after working your whole careers in a growing economy… you have to figure out how to survive in a declining one