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		<title>The Five Keys To Value Investing Profits</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keith Fitz-Gerald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Even the most conservative value funds have been whacked this year. But <strong>Keith Fitz-Gerald</strong> says following a value-investing discipline is the smartest thing to do right now. That&#8217;s where the big recovery gains will be. He gives five tips on how to seek out “real value” in the market.</p>
<p>This from <a href="http://www.moneymorning.com"  class="alinks_links" onclick="return alinks_click(this);" title=""  style="padding-right: 13px; background: url(http://www.contrarianprofits.com/wp-content/plugins/alinks/images/external.png) center right no-repeat;" rel="external">Money Morning</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Value funds have long been viewed as conservative investments. So why are they down an average of 42% during the past 12 months, and what’s wrong with them?</p>
<p>No question, such numbers are scary, especially for large-cap value fund investors who have experienced that 42% drop. And the fact that some of the biggest names in value investing have taken such big beatings has to be especially disconcerting for investors who&#8230;</p></blockquote>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the most conservative value funds have been whacked this year. But <strong>Keith Fitz-Gerald</strong> says following a value-investing discipline is the smartest thing to do right now. That&#8217;s where the big recovery gains will be. He gives five tips on how to seek out “real value” in the market.<span id="more-8821"></span></p>
<p>This from <a href="http://www.moneymorning.com"  class="alinks_links" onclick="return alinks_click(this);" title=""  style="padding-right: 13px; background: url(http://www.contrarianprofits.com/wp-content/plugins/alinks/images/external.png) center right no-repeat;" rel="external">Money Morning</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Value funds have long been viewed as conservative investments. So why are they down an average of 42% during the past 12 months, and what’s wrong with them?</p>
<p>No question, such numbers are scary, especially for large-cap value fund investors who have experienced that 42% drop. And the fact that some of the biggest names in value investing have taken such big beatings has to be especially disconcerting for investors who already have had their confidence badly shaken and their portfolios eviscerated.</p>
<p><a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Miller_(finance)_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Miller_%28finance%29" target="_blank">Bill  Miller</a>’s once-vaunted <strong>Legg Mason Value Trust fund </strong>(<a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://finance.google.com/finance?q=LMVTX_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://finance.google.com/finance?q=LMVTX" target="_blank">LMVTX</a>) has dropped 62%.  Meanwhile, <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_J._Whitman_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_J._Whitman" target="_blank">Marty  Whitman</a>’s <strong>Third Avenue Value Fund</strong> (<a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ATAVFX_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ATAVFX" target="_blank">TAVFX</a>) is down  50%. Even the <strong>Dodge &amp; Cox Stock Fund</strong> (<a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://finance.google.com/finance?q=DODGX_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://finance.google.com/finance?q=DODGX" target="_blank">DODGX</a>) fund has tumbled  49% year to date.</p>
<p>For many investors who viewed value funds as comparatively “safe,” low-risk investments, this has to feel like a betrayal. And that’s understandable, given that history has repeatedly shown the value discipline to be one of the strongest, most stable investment strategies available for navigating a bear market.</p>
<p>What’s different this time?</p>
<p>Some managers – like Legg Mason’s Miller, as well as the <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;https://www.dodgeandcox.com/_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="https://www.dodgeandcox.com/" target="_blank">Dodge &amp; Cox</a> team, for example – simply underestimated the depth and severity of the challenges facing their investments. Adding insult to injury, they concentrated their investments in a relatively small number of core holdings they thought they “knew.” During good times, this concentration strategy can dramatically boost returns when stellar companies that had been trading at deep discounts subsequently rebound. But now, when times are tough, as is readily apparent, stockpiling money in one or two holdings like Lehman Bros. Holdings Inc. (OTC: <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://finance.google.com/finance?q=OTC%3ALEHMQ_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://finance.google.com/finance?q=OTC%3ALEHMQ" target="_blank">LEHMQ</a>) or Freddie  Mac (<a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://finance.google.com/finance?q=fre_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://finance.google.com/finance?q=fre" target="_blank">FRE</a>) can be  devastating.</p>
<p>Others, like Whitman – a gentleman who is often regarded as the “Dean of Value Investing” – simply don’t sell all that often, preferring to ride out market gyrations, which they view as a mere nuisance. So their performance is likely to suffer in line with the markets. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, Whitman, who is notorious for looking beyond what the public markets do, doesn’t care that prices have fallen so low. He believes that undervalued companies will be taken over, liquidated or refinanced which, as he pointed out in an interview with Brian Zen last year, is “where you make your money.”</p>
<p>While such strategies put value players on the losing side of the investment ledger for now, it will be a different ballgame when the markets turn, as they eventually will.</p>
<p>In fact, when we emerge from the other side of the current financial crisis – which we will, and probably sooner than everybody realizes – the deep-value choices available today will be some of the highest-performing investments for decades to come.</p>
<p>And for all the right reasons: Many of the underlying companies are still expecting solid business growth, diversified revenue streams and a clear path to higher earnings.<br />
That means that one of the smartest moves a savvy investor can make today is to stick with the value-investing discipline. The historical record suggests that the best choices continue to be those companies with low or no debt, a high proportion of international revenue, and a history of solid dividend growth that pays us cold, hard cash for the ownership risks we take.</p>
<p>That is why there is nothing “wrong” with making value  investing a key component of your investment strategy. Especially now.</p>
<p>As for the notion that “value” investing is broken, we don’t buy into that. Studies show that investing styles come and go. For instance, indexing might hold sway for awhile, until it gives way to a total-return strategy. Then the momentum players hold the majority. And so on.</p>
<p>What’s important to understand, however, is that styles  don’t work <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">all</span></em> the time; they work <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">over</span></em> time, which is why it is more important than ever to maintain a laser-like focus when the going gets tough. The following five guidelines can help you keep that focus.</p>
<h3>Five Keys To Consider Right Now</h3>
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<li><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Be Patient</span>: </strong>Investors have fled the markets in  droves lately. According to <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.trimtabs.com/site/index.php_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://www.trimtabs.com/site/index.php" target="_blank">TrimTabs  Investment Research</a>, mutual fund investors have pulled $175 billion out of stock funds so far this year, with $56 billion of that capital exodus taking place in October alone. This is the first year that equity flows have been negative since 2002, which reaffirms something we frequently point out: Investors tend to rush in at market tops and out at market bottoms. <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/11/13/president-elect-barack-obama/_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/11/13/president-elect-barack-obama/" target="_blank">And  that suggests that we may be approaching a bottom – even if it’s not  immediately apparent</a>.</li>
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<li><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Rebalance</span></strong>: Tough markets can really skew your financial  perspective. And your portfolio balance. “<a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rebalancing.asp_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rebalancing.asp" target="_blank">Rebalancing</a>” can help you get back on track to higher returns, as we’ve mentioned in the past. Not only does rebalancing force you to take profits, but it also encourages you to put more money to work in areas that have been hit the hardest (and which are also poised for the biggest-potential rebounds, studies show).</li>
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<li><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Look For Consistency</span></strong>: As redemption requests mount and conditions deteriorate, some value funds are shifting managerial styles in an attempt to make up lost ground. Not only does this suggest that these funds never had a strategy to start with, but it also suggests a lack of discipline, which is exactly what we don’t want right now. Studies show that value funds, in particular, tend to rebound more sharply than other investment choices because they’re often chocked full of quality stocks trading at deep – but temporary — discounts.</li>
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<li><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Make Sure Value Really Is Valuable</span>:</strong> “Value” has many different meanings, so it’s important to make sure you understand what the term means when it comes to picking a suitable investment. For some managers, value means companies that are simply trading at steep discounts to other stocks. For others, it means a concentration on those stocks trading in predetermined ranges, perhaps as measured by such indicators as <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-earningsratio.asp_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-earningsratio.asp" target="_blank">Price/Earnings</a> (P/E) or <a onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/11/20/the-five-keys-to-value-investing-profits/..%5C..%5C..%5C.._1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" href="http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/11/20/the-five-keys-to-value-investing-profits/..%5C..%5C..%5C..%5C..%5Cbpantalon%5CLocal%20Settings%5CTemporary%20Internet%20Files%5COLK153%5CPrice%5CBook%20Value" target="_blank">Price/Book</a> (P/B) ratios.  Different definitions can  lead to vastly different types of stocks.</li>
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<li><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">When Buying On The Cheap, Understand That Near Term  Outlook Often Stinks:</span></strong> During good times, value investing is often about buying companies that, at least in the near-term, have fallen on hard times. Now, however, pretty much everything is “cheap,” so the more important issue is identifying those companies with superior fundamentals and improving outlooks that may simply be caught in this bad-market maelstrom.</li>
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<p>After all, Wall Street knows the <em>price</em> of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">everything</span>.  But very few people understand the <em>value</em> of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">anything</span>.</p></blockquote>
<p><a class="titleref" onclick="s_objectID=&quot;http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/11/20/the-five-keys-to-value-investing-profits/_1&quot;;return this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/11/20/the-five-keys-to-value-investing-profits/">Source: The Five Keys to  Value Investing Profits</a></p>
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		<title>Hank Paulson&#8217;s Wrong: Financials Have Not Bottomed</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric J Fry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In April, Treasury Secretary <strong>Hank Paulson</strong> called the bottom in the <strong>financial sector</strong>. He said: &#8220;I think were closer to the end of the [credit crisis] than we are to the beginning.</p>
<p>&#8220;The <a href="http://www.agorafinancial.com/afrude/"  class="alinks_links" onclick="return alinks_click(this);" title=""  style="padding-right: 13px; background: url(http://www.contrarianprofits.com/wp-content/plugins/alinks/images/external.png) center right no-repeat;" rel="external">Rude Awakening</a>&#8217;s editorial director <strong>Eric Fry</strong> thinks Hank was way off the mark. Eric says <strong>financial stocks</strong> will by a buy one day, but he doesn&#8217;t believe we are looking at a bottom now.</p>
<p>In the second part of The End of Peak Greed, Eric says investors are better off putting their money into companies that are making the world go around than betting on <strong>financials</strong>, which are sending it not a tailspin.</p>
<blockquote><p>But recent dismal results from the financial sector show us still that the bottom may not be in. Almost no&#8230;</p></blockquote>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In April, Treasury Secretary <strong>Hank Paulson</strong> called the bottom in the <strong>financial sector</strong>. He said: &#8220;I think were closer to the end of the [credit crisis] than we are to the beginning.</p>
<p>&#8220;The <a href="http://www.agorafinancial.com/afrude/"  class="alinks_links" onclick="return alinks_click(this);" title=""  style="padding-right: 13px; background: url(http://www.contrarianprofits.com/wp-content/plugins/alinks/images/external.png) center right no-repeat;" rel="external">Rude Awakening</a>&#8217;s editorial director <strong>Eric Fry</strong> thinks Hank was way off the mark. Eric says <strong>financial stocks</strong> will by a buy one day, but he doesn&#8217;t believe we are looking at a bottom now.</p>
<p>In the second part of The End of Peak Greed, Eric says investors are better off putting their money into companies that are making the world go around than betting on <strong>financials</strong>, which are sending it not a tailspin.<span id="more-4801"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>But recent dismal results from the financial sector show us still that the bottom may not be in. Almost no one can buy a house these days. But almost everyone is eager to buy the shares of the companies that can’t sell the houses that nobody can buy. And I think that’s about all you need to know about the financial sector and the housing sector to know that we’re probably not at the bottom yet.</p>
<p>These financial stocks will be a buy one day, there’s no question about it. And maybe they are right now. I am not arrogant enough to say that I know. I mean, maybe this is the greatest buying opportunity of all time in the finance sector. It could be. And I mean that genuinely. But I don’t believe it is.</p>
<p>Any investor who is tempted to bottom-fish in the financial sector, should take a look at this chart:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.ezimages.net/upload/RUDESUBS/japbanks.gif" /></p>
<p>It compares the Nikkei Index to the Topix Japanese Banking Index. You can see that the Topix Banking Index is down 80% from its high in 1989. That’s a very, very long time. Not only that, the index rallied around 40% to 60% seven times during that period. Seven different times investors believed that this index was recovering. And seven times, it did not.</p>
<p>One of the reasons is that during a period of de-leveraging, such as Japan suffered, equity disappears. Equity struggles. A lot of good things can happen to businesses; a lot of good things can happen to individuals; credit can flow again. It doesn’t mean equity is going to recover. Equity suffers. It goes away.</p>
<p>These things will be a buy someday. It’s just that I prefer to miss the first 20% of the upside. And I’d rather buy into something where I can see at least a sign of a rebound. So why not invest in the companies that are making the world go around, and are performing well, instead of the companies that are making the world go into a tailspin?t</p></blockquote>
<p>Addison Wiggan and Ian Mathias in <a href="http://www.agorafinancial.com/5min/" title="Open a new browser window to learn more." target="_blank">Agora&#8217;s 5 Min. Forecast</a> are equally skeptical about U.S. banks&#8217; financial health. This from yesterday&#8217;s edition:</p>
<blockquote><p><font size="2" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Here’s another worrisome new trend in the financial sector: <strong>Two sovereign wealth funds just took a pass at purchasing a gigantic stake in Lehman Brothers.</strong> Rumors abound this morning that Lehman has been offering to sell 50% of itself to state-owned banks in China and South Korea. Both foreign investors balked at the last minute.</font></p></blockquote>
<p>P.S. Read on here for the first part of Eric&#8217;s post on the U.S. financial sector: <a href="http://www.contrarianprofits.com/articles/avoid-bottom-fishing-for-financials-its-way-too-risky/4743" title="Open a new browser window to learn more." target="_blank">Avoid Bottom Fishing for Financials: It’s Way Too Risky </a></p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.agorafinancial.com/afrude/2008/08/21/the-end-of-peak-greed-part-ii/"><strong>The End of Peak Greed, Part II</strong> </a></p>
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