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		<title>The Dollar, the Euro, and being Bullish on Gold</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lord William Rees-Mogg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The dollar nevertheless remains the world’s leading reserve currency, with the euro in second place. Investors are naturally anxious to protect themselves against markets, including currency markets, which have shown such a high degree of volatility. 

The Chinese, who have the greatest number of dollars in their currency reserves, have already suffered substantial losses. 

In what amounts to a crisis of the dollar, the euro is in second place as a reserve currency, but there are potential threats to the future of the euro, due to the weak productivity of the Mediterranean economies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord William Rees-Mogg, driving force behind the biweekly Fleet Street Invest newlsetter, analyzes the current state of the dollar, the euro and the future of gold &#8211; and why it will always be an attractive, tangible asset.<span id="more-21107"></span></p>
<p>Lord William Rees-Mogg (<a href="http://www.fleetstreetinvest.co.uk/">Fleet Street Invest UK</a>):<br />
In the last six months there has been a rebound of 50% in the great majority of world stock markets. </p>
<p>There has also been a comparable rebound in the price of oil, with West Texas oil rising very close to $80 a barrel. In the oil market there has been heavy two-way trading in options. There could be a sharp spike in the oil price if speculators have to cover their positions.</p>
<p>At the same time the US dollar has remained weak, and now stands at $1.4886 to the euro and $1.66628 to the pound. This is close to a 14-month low on a trade-weighted basis. The poor performance of the dollar reflects the low US interest rates and the twin US fiscal and trade deficits.</p>
<p><strong>The demise of the dollar </strong></p>
<p>The dollar nevertheless remains the world’s leading reserve currency, with the euro in second place. Investors are naturally anxious to protect themselves against markets, including currency markets, which have shown such a high degree of volatility. </p>
<p>The Chinese, who have the greatest number of dollars in their currency reserves, have already suffered substantial losses. </p>
<p>In what amounts to a crisis of the dollar, the euro is in second place as a reserve currency, but there are potential threats to the future of the euro, due to the weak productivity of the Mediterranean economies. There is a big stretch in productivity growth between the German and the Southern European regions.</p>
<p>The fall in the dollar against other currencies includes a devaluation of the dollar in terms of gold, which now seems to have stabilized at a dollar price of $1,050 an ounce. </p>
<p>The circumstances do indeed appear to be uniquely favourable to gold. </p>
<p>Interest rates and therefore carrying costs are exceptionally low. The dollar is exceptionally weak. The technical market position is strong, including good demand for gold in terms of jewellery. The oil price – which is often linked to gold – is rising. Those who believe that oil is due for a further rise to $100 a barrel are likely also to be confident about holding a proportion of their investment . . .<br />
Click <a href="http://www.fleetstreetinvest.co.uk/gold/gold-price/gold-dollar-investors-confidence-54423.html">here</a> to read the rest of Lord Rees-Mogg&#8217;s article at <a href="http://www.fleetstreetinvest.co.uk/">Fleet Street Invest UK</a>.</p>
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		<title>Depression Then and Now</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mayer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">This is an eye-opener. Whenever I talk about the Great Depression and compare it with what is going on today, I get a lot of skepticism. I hear a lot of people say, definitively, “This isn’t as bad as the Great Depression.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What you have to remember, though, is the Great Depression unfolded like a train wreck in slow motion. It took awhile before it became the Great Depression. It wasn’t like someone flipped a switch and poof! — bread lines, Hoovervilles and hobos.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another point to remember is that the Great Depression was a global economic event. It wasn’t just confined to the U.S. You have a take a wide-angle view of the global economy to get a better sense of&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">This is an eye-opener. Whenever I talk about the Great Depression and compare it with what is going on today, I get a lot of skepticism. I hear a lot of people say, definitively, “This isn’t as bad as the Great Depression.”<span id="more-18863"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What you have to remember, though, is the Great Depression unfolded like a train wreck in slow motion. It took awhile before it became the Great Depression. It wasn’t like someone flipped a switch and poof! — bread lines, Hoovervilles and hobos.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another point to remember is that the Great Depression was a global economic event. It wasn’t just confined to the U.S. You have a take a wide-angle view of the global economy to get a better sense of the breadth of the slump. And so it is today.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Take a look at the next few charts, from economists Barry Eichengreen and Kevin O’Rourke. The first plots world industrial output from June 1929 against industrial output from April 2008:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a class="flickr-image alignnone" title="phpeHESip" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.flickr.com');" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28114165@N06/3701151304/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2515/3701151304_ebd4cbbbb2.jpg" alt="phpeHESip" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We’re tracking that path pretty closely.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Then there are world stock markets:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a class="flickr-image alignnone" title="phpOm2OvX" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.flickr.com');" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28114165@N06/3700341345/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3700341345_991a3a1e91.jpg" alt="phpOm2OvX" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We’re actually worse off right now.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Finally, take a look at the volume of world trade:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a class="flickr-image alignnone" title="phpcm4YOG" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.flickr.com');" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28114165@N06/3700343225/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3700343225_be126476d5.jpg" alt="phpcm4YOG" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Again, here we’re actually ahead of the pace set in the Great Depression.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are several other charts, but I think you get the point. Eichengreen and O’Rourke conclude:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>“To summarize: The world is currently undergoing an economic shock every bit as big as the Great Depression shock of 1929-30. Looking just at the U.S. leads one to overlook how alarming the current situation is even in comparison with 1929-30.”</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Even so, there are many differences between now and then. One big difference that doesn’t get much play is the fact that today we have large emerging economies such as China, India, Russia and Brazil.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Investment strategist Murray Stahl, in a recent letter, pointed out “the most important difference between that era and this era…is the robust economic development of China, India, Russia and Brazil. During the Great Depression, those nations were in the opposite condition.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">China was in the midst of a civil war and then had to fend off a Japanese invasion. India wasn’t even on the economic map as anything of any consequence. Russia was backward and militantly communist. And Brazil had all kinds of political problems, including trying to put down a communist movement.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Today, those four countries are in much better shape. They are much larger and are still growing.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are many more differences, and I don’t expect what we’re going through to play out like the Great Depression, except maybe in some of the broadest outlines. This is, or will be, known as the greatest crisis the world has faced since the Great Depression.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">How it is similar is also in some of the valuations in individual stocks and securities. As Stahl writes, we share with the Great Depression the “bizarre valuations on highly liquid securities in the world capital markets [such] that I have never before seen in my 30-plus years of investment practice.” In that, there is opportunity.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As I’ve written before, I think there is room for investing even in a weak economy. There are lessons we can learn from the Great Depression. Some stocks will do better than others. I expect the needed commodities that fuel those big emerging economies will be good places to be.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And these hard assets also provide some protection in a world where paper currencies are not likely to hold their value as cash-strapped governments around the world crank up the printing presses.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.agorafinancial.com/afrude/2009/07/08/life-imitates-religion/">Source: Depression Then and Now</a></p>
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		<title>A Tale of Two Depressions</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Mauldin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s Outside the box looks at some very interesting research done by two economic historians, Barry Eichengreen of the University of California at Berkeley and Kevin O&#8217;Rourke of Trinity College, Dublin They give us comparisons between the Great Depression and today&#8217;s downturn.</p>
<p>They continue to update their data from time to time, the link to their work is at <a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421">http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421</a>. I have not previously heard of <a href="http://www.voxeu.org/">www.voxeu.org</a>, but it is a collection of the work of well regarded international economists that seems quite interesting for those who enjoy readings in the dismal science.</p>
<p>This week&#8217;s OTB will print long, but it is primarily charts. Please note that I have re-arranged some of the new charts to cut down on space because of some&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s Outside the box looks at some very interesting research done by two economic historians, Barry Eichengreen of the University of California at Berkeley and Kevin O&#8217;Rourke of Trinity College, Dublin They give us comparisons between the Great Depression and today&#8217;s downturn.<span id="more-18240"></span></p>
<p>They continue to update their data from time to time, the link to their work is at <a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421">http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421</a>. I have not previously heard of <a href="http://www.voxeu.org/">www.voxeu.org</a>, but it is a collection of the work of well regarded international economists that seems quite interesting for those who enjoy readings in the dismal science.</p>
<p>This week&#8217;s OTB will print long, but it is primarily charts. Please note that I have re-arranged some of the new charts to cut down on space because of some duplications. Word count is not all that much and it reads well. I will be referring to their work in future letters as well. Have a great week!</p>
<p>John Mauldin, Editor<br />
<em>Outside the Box</em></p>
<p><em><strong>A Tale of Two Depressions</strong></em></p>
<p>New findings:</p>
<ul>
<li>World industrial production continues to track closely the 1930s fall, with no clear signs of ‘green shoots&#8217;.</li>
<li>World <a class="iAs" href="http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/john_mauldins_outside_the_box/archive/2009/06/22/a-tale-of-two-depressions.aspx#" target="_blank">stock markets<img src="http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif" alt="" /></a> have rebounded a bit since March, and world trade has stabilized, but these are still following paths far below the ones they followed in the Great Depression.</li>
<li>There are new charts for individual nations&#8217; industrial output. The big-4 EU nations divide north-south; today&#8217;s German and British industrial output are closely tracking their rate of fall in the 1930s, while Italy and France are doing much worse.</li>
<li>The North Americans (US &amp; Canada) continue to see their industrial output fall approximately in line with what happened in the 1929 crisis, with no clear signs of a turn around.</li>
<li>Japan&#8217;s industrial output in February was 25 percentage points lower than at the equivalent stage in the Great Depression. There was however a sharp rebound in March.</li>
</ul>
<p>The parallels between the Great Depression of the 1930s and our current Great Recession have been widely remarked upon. <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/the-great-recession-versus-the-great-depression/">Paul Krugman</a> has compared the fall in US industrial production from its mid-1929 and late-2007 peaks, showing that it has been milder this time. On this basis he refers to the current situation, with characteristic black humour, as only &#8220;half a Great Depression.&#8221; The &#8220;<a href="http://dshort.com/charts/bears/four-bears-large.gif">Four Bad Bears</a>&#8221; graph comparing the Dow in 1929-30 and S&amp;P 500 in 2008-9 has similarly had wide circulation (Short 2009). It shows the US <a class="iAs" href="http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/john_mauldins_outside_the_box/archive/2009/06/22/a-tale-of-two-depressions.aspx#" target="_blank">stock market<img src="http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif" alt="" /></a> since late 2007 falling just about as fast as in 1929-30.</p>
<h3>Comparing the Great Depression to now for the world, not just the US</h3>
<p>This and most other commentary contrasting the two episodes compares America then and now. This, however, is a misleading picture. The Great Depression was a global phenomenon. Even if it originated, in some sense, in the US, it was transmitted internationally by trade flows, capital flows and commodity prices. That said, different countries were affected differently. The US is not representative of their experiences.</p>
<p>Our Great Recession is every bit as global, earlier hopes for decoupling in Asia and Europe notwithstanding. Increasingly there is awareness that events have taken an even uglier turn outside the US, with even larger falls in manufacturing production, exports and equity prices.</p>
<p>In fact, when we look globally, as in Figure 1, the decline in industrial production in the last nine months has been at least as severe as in the nine months following the 1929 peak. (All graphs in this column track behaviour after the peaks in world industrial production, which occurred in June 1929 and April 2008.) Here, then, is a first illustration of how the global picture provides a very different and, indeed, more disturbing perspective than the US case considered by Krugman, which as noted earlier shows a smaller decline in manufacturing production now than then.</p>
<p><strong>Updated Figure 1. </strong>World Industrial Output, Now vs Then (updated)</p>
<p><img title="Updated Figure 1. World Industrial Output, Now vs Then (updated)" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image001_5F00_3F6CCE20.jpg" border="0" alt="Updated Figure 1. World Industrial Output, Now vs Then (updated)" width="415" height="260" /></p>
<p><em>Source: Eichengreen and O&#8217;Rourke (2009) and IMF.</em></p>
<p>Similarly, while the fall in US stock market has tracked 1929, global stock markets are falling even faster now than in the Great Depression (Figure 2). Again this is contrary to the impression left by those who, basing their comparison on the US market alone, suggest that the current crash is no more serious than that of 1929-30.</p>
<p><strong>Updated Figure 2.</strong> World Stock Markets, Now vs Then (updated)</p>
<p><img title="Updated Figure 2. World Stock Markets, Now vs Then (updated)" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image002_5F00_5AA52721.jpg" border="0" alt="Updated Figure 2. World Stock Markets, Now vs Then (updated)" width="425" height="270" /></p>
<p>Another area where we are &#8220;surpassing&#8221; our forbearers is in destroying trade. World trade is falling much faster now than in 1929-30 (Figure 3). This is highly alarming given the prominence attached in the historical literature to trade destruction as a factor compounding the Great Depression.</p>
<p><strong>Updated Figure 3</strong>. The Volume of World Trade, Now vs Then (updated)</p>
<p><img title="Updated Figure 3. The Volume of World Trade, Now vs Then (updated)" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image003_5F00_680B3A27.jpg" border="0" alt="Updated Figure 3. The Volume of World Trade, Now vs Then (updated)" width="438" height="251" /></p>
<p><em>Sources: League of Nations Monthly Bulletin of Statistics,<a href="http://www.cpb.nl/eng/research/sector2/data/trademonitor.htmltarget=">http://www.cpb.nl/eng/research/sector2/data/trademonitor.html</a></em></p>
<h3>It&#8217;s a Depression alright</h3>
<p>To sum up, globally we are tracking or doing even worse than the Great Depression, whether the metric is industrial production, exports or equity valuations. Focusing on the US causes one to minimise this alarming fact. The &#8220;Great Recession&#8221; label may turn out to be too optimistic. This is a Depression-sized event.</p>
<p>That said, we are only one year into the current crisis, whereas after 1929 the world economy continued to shrink for three successive years. What matters now is that policy makers arrest the decline. We therefore turn to the policy response.</p>
<h3>Policy responses: Then and now</h3>
<p>Figure 4 shows a GDP-weighted average of central bank discount rates for 7 countries. As can be seen, in both crises there was a lag of five or six months before discount rates responded to the passing of the peak, although in the present crisis rates have been cut more rapidly and from a lower level. There is more at work here than simply the difference between George Harrison and Ben Bernanke. The central bank response has differed globally.</p>
<p><strong>Updated Figure 4. </strong>Central Bank Discount Rates, Now vs Then (7 country average)</p>
<p><img title="Updated Figure 4. Central Bank Discount Rates, Now vs Then (7 country average)" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image004_5F00_4379ACA3.jpg" border="0" alt="Updated Figure 4. Central Bank Discount Rates, Now vs Then (7 country average)" width="416" height="260" /></p>
<p><em>Source: Bernanke and Mihov (2000); Bank of England, ECB, Bank of Japan, St. Louis Fed, National Bank of Poland, Sveriges Riksbank.</em></p>
<p>Figure 5 shows money supply for a GDP-weighted average of 19 countries accounting for more than half of world GDP in 2004. Clearly, monetary expansion was more rapid in the run-up to the 2008 crisis than during 1925-29, which is a reminder that the stage-setting events were not the same in the two cases. Moreover, the global money supply continued to grow rapidly in 2008, unlike in 1929 when it levelled off and then underwent a catastrophic decline.</p>
<p><strong>Figure 5.</strong> Money Supplies, 19 Countries, Now vs Then</p>
<p><img title="Figure 5. Money Supplies, 19 Countries, Now vs Then" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image005_5F00_7ECD1261.jpg" border="0" alt="Figure 5. Money Supplies, 19 Countries, Now vs Then" width="412" height="340" /></p>
<p><em>Source: Bordo et al. (2001), IMF International Financial Statistics, OECD Monthly Economic Indicators.</em></p>
<p>Figure 6 is the analogous picture for fiscal policy, in this case for 24 countries. The interwar measure is the fiscal surplus as a percentage of GDP. The current data include the IMF&#8217;s World Economic Outlook Update forecasts for 2009 and 2010. As can be seen, fiscal deficits expanded after 1929 but only modestly. Clearly, willingness to run deficits today is considerably greater.</p>
<p><strong>Figure 6</strong>. Government Budget Surpluses, Now vs Then</p>
<p><img title="Figure 6. Government Budget Surpluses, Now vs Then" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image006_5F00_01099B1E.jpg" border="0" alt="Figure 6. Government Budget Surpluses, Now vs Then" width="439" height="393" /></p>
<p><em>Source: Bordo et al. (2001), IMF World Economic Outlook, January 2009.</em></p>
<p><em>[They added some country data in their revision that I put here, hence the two figure 5's, but they are labeled as such on the website and I did not change their labellling – JFM]</em></p>
<p><strong>New Figure 5</strong>. Industrial output, four big Europeans, then and now</p>
<p><img title="New Figure 5. Industrial output, four big Europeans, then and now" src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image007_5F00_0E6FAE24.jpg" border="0" alt="New Figure 5. Industrial output, four big Europeans, then and now" width="607" height="571" /></p>
<p><strong>New Figure 6</strong>. Industrial output, four Non-Europeans, then and now.</p>
<p><img title="New Figure 6. Industrial output, four Non-Europeans, then and now." src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image008_5F00_70912A22.jpg" border="0" alt="New Figure 6. Industrial output, four Non-Europeans, then and now." width="612" height="568" /></p>
<p>The facts for Chile, Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Poland and Sweden are displayed below;</p>
<p><strong>New Figure 7</strong>: Industrial output, four small Europeans, then and now.</p>
<p><img title="New Figure 7: Industrial output, four small Europeans, then and now." src="http://www.investorsinsight.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/john_5F00_mauldins_5F00_outside_5F00_the_5F00_box/jmotb062209image009_5F00_2BE48FE1.jpg" border="0" alt="New Figure 7: Industrial output, four small Europeans, then and now." width="607" height="595" /></p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>To summarise: the world is currently undergoing an economic shock every bit as big as the Great Depression shock of 1929-30. Looking just at the US leads one to overlook how alarming the current situation is even in comparison with 1929-30.</p>
<p>The good news, of course, is that the policy response is very different. The question now is whether that policy response will work. For the answer, stay tuned for our next column.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/john_mauldins_outside_the_box/archive/2009/06/22/a-tale-of-two-depressions.aspx">A Tale of Two Depressions</a></p>
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